Pre-Flood and Early Post-Flood People, Part Four

From the Creation Museum

From the Creation Museum

Phil Jensen


In part three I reported that P.J. Wiseman, a British officer who lived from 1888 to 1948 and who visited many active archaeological sites during his career in the Middle East said: “No more surprising fact has been discovered by recent excavation than the suddenness with which civilization appeared in the world.” [1]  With this in mind, I now want to give you an example of the advanced state of civilizations of those early days.

My example comes from the time following the world wide Flood of Noah’s day. This was a time when there were great glaciers and cold weather in the northern latitudes and in the southern latitudes.  In fact, James Nienhuis, president of Genesis Veracity, in his book, Ice Age Civilizations, which was endorsed by Dr. James Kennedy, says the continental land masses in the more northerly latitudes (North America, northern and eastern Europe, and Siberia) carried what he called “ice-packs” up to two miles deep. [2]

But while there were these ice-packs in the northern and southern latitudes, there was warm and rainy weather in the middle latitudes. For example, during this time all of the countries in the middle latitudes that we normally think of as being covered with deserts, such as the Sahara Desert in northern Africa, and the Middle East and Indus regions (Indus region would include northwestern region of the India subcontinent, this would include Pakistan) had well watered grasslands and forests. [3]

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Due to the thick glaciers in the northern and southern latitudes, the oceans were not as deep. They were as much as 300 feet lower “around India and around other middle latitude landmasses of the earth.” [4] And because of the lower oceans, the coasts extended out fifty to a hundred miles or more on what are called the continental shelves.  They are called continental shelves because they are fairly level. But when you get to the end of the shelves, the underwater slope drops off precipitously.  During the time following the world wide Flood, when the northern and southern latitudes were covered with glaciers, the middle latitudes were comfortable and well watered, and the oceans were as much as 300 feet lower in some places, is what has been called the Ice Age.

During the Ice Age, which continued for several hundred years at least, while large portions of the continental shelves were above water, the early post-Flood people built some of their cities out on these shelves.  But then at the end of the Ice Age, when the snow and ice melted and flowed into the oceans, a lot of these cities were inundated with water and became submerged under fifty or more feet of water. When the water started coming in, the people had to leave and start over farther inland. One of these cities was a city off the southwestern coast of India called Dwarka. Dwarka was fifty miles from today’s shoreline.

If you were to do a search on the internet for Dwarka, India, you would find two cities named Dwarka.  One is still in existence and is on the present coastline. The other one, which is referred to as old Dwarka, is the one that was fifty miles out on the continental shelf and is now underwater.

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On the internet you can look at pictures of buildings in this underwater city.  There is a statute of a lion. There are statues of a group of people standing in a circle. There is a building which looks like a temple.  It obviously at one time was a city where people lived. But it is now under water.

In speaking of Dwarka in his book, Ice Age Civilizations, James Nienhuis says, “Another city of the ancient Indus-Sarasvati civilization was old Dwarka which is now on the sea floor, just off shore from modern day Dwarka.  The now submerged ancient Dwarka was about fifty miles inland during the Ice Age, on the Gomati River, but then the sea level rose about 300 feet to submerge its buildings which are of similar appearance to those later built at the second Dwarka, on the risen ocean shoreline such as long intersecting walls of interlocking  L-shaped megalithic blocks (which also characterize the stone citadels on either side of the Gomati River of the sub-merged site).”[5]

While old Dwarka was built about fifty miles from the ocean during the Ice Age, second Dwarka, which was built even more inland, stands on the risen ocean shoreline. Nienhuis refers to the second Dwarka as post-Ice Age Dwarka. [6]

Notice here the case Nienhuis is making in Ice Age Civilizations. The construction methods used in what Nienhuis calls old Dwarka are the same in what he calls post Ice Age Dwarka.  This is important because it points to both cities being built in the same general period of time, certainly not thousands of years apart. This is important because we know when post Ice Age Dwarka was built.  It was built around 2000 B.C.

Also keep in mind, old Dwarka was just one of many cities that were built on the continental shelves around the world during the Ice Age, cities which are still there, but now due to the glacier run off at the end of the Ice Age are fifty feet or more underwater. The large structures of one city off the coast of southeastern India were observed when the tide went out, just before the great tsunami of December 2004 hit that coast. These cities are off the coasts of south India, “Taiwan/ Japan, Malta, Greece, Lebanon, Spain, and Egypt.”[7] And like old Dwarka, a number of them also have cities on shore close to them which share similar methods of construction.

Nienhuis makes the case that these were built around 2000 B.C., which would place their construction just a couple of hundred years after the Flood. Therefore, these cities testify to the intelligence and engineering knowledge and skills of the early descendents of Noah, just as the building of the city and the Tower of Babel do in Genesis 11.

It is important to understand this because these underwater cities create a problem for scientists who think that early man was not intelligent and that the Bible is not a reliable witness to the history of the world.  I say this because once you grant that these cities were destroyed at the end of the Ice Age by the runoff into the oceans, you have to admit that these cities, which show a very high level of construction, were built during the Ice Age or before the Ice Age.

That does not jibe with the secular humanistic time line of mainstream scientists for two reasons.  First, they say the Ice Age ended at about 10,000 B.C. Therefore, underwater cities like ancient Dwarka would have to have been built before 10,000 B.C. That doesn’t jibe with the facts because post Ice Age Dwarka was built in 2000 B. C. and it doesn’t make sense for two cities with the same construction methods to have been built 8,000 years apart.

Secondly, it is a big problem because the end of the Ice Age is when secular humanists see the cave men coming out of their caves.  It is very hard to see cave men who Nienhuis says “were supposedly just learning to farm with stone tools and live in crude villages”[8] as being the ones who built these magnificent cities which are now underwater.

Obviously, something is very wrong with the secular humanistic time line and the approach of mainstream scientists to these underwater cities because their view doesn’t jibe with the hard facts. For clearly, cave men did not build them. They were built by highly skilled people who were gifted by God and knew what they were doing. Therefore, they testify to a highly intelligent and gifted humanity that, no doubt, built great cities before the Flood as well as after the flood. This series of articles is from Bob Wittstruck’s new book, The Forgotten Factor of History God Rules.

[1]  Take from (Ancient Records and the Structure of Genesis ) by (P.J. Wiseman) Copyright © (1985)  by (Donald J. Wiseman)  Used by permission  of Thomas Nelson , p. 39.

[2] James I. Nienhuis, Ice Age  Civilizations (Houston, Texas: Genesis Veracity, 2006), p. 5.  This book has an endorsement by Dr. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries. It provides helpful information in understanding early post-flood history.

[3] Ibid., p. vii.

[4]  Ibid., p. 5

[5] James Nienhuis, Ice Age Civilizations, p. 3.

[6]  Ibid.

[7] James Nienhuis, Ice Age Civilizations, (Houston, Texas: Genesis Veracity, 2006) p. 6.

[8] James Nienhuis, (Houston, Texas: Genesis Veracity, 2006) page vi



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Bob Wittstruck was a pastor for 33 years, was the associate director of the Black Hills Creation Science Association, and is a supporter of both Christian schooling and home schooling. His latest book, The Forgotten Factor of History God Rules, is being printed in February or March of 2016. His email address is [email protected]
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